Several years went by and one family apologized to us as did another man. The eight former elders who signed the letter alleged that that Harvest ran a puppet elder board; that a culture of fear and intimidation plagued the church; and that the elder board, which was supposed to be responsible for overseeing the churchs finances, was not granted access to financial information. Thank you for opening up your home so that hurting people could come together and share. "Following a lengthy season of review, reflection, and prayerful. That, it seems, was what it took to finally break his hold over his current elder board; to finally convince the elders that they were wrong to keep listening to his excuses. My blog had indirectly undermined James. In the arbitration, MacDonald retained the rights to Walk in the Word, a part of the church that had put on his teaching ministry and popular radio broadcast. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Its difficult to understand how people can now know what they know and still only criticize the ones that feel compelled to now share their story. Some women were still in the middle of the trauma and were still currently attending Harvest. www. The Lord knows and he keeps the books. So many people have recently asked me why I left Harvest Bible Chapel when I did. Please have your Passports Ready. Have you sought the Lord in prayer and fasting?Exposing sin is not hurtful then you would be against every prophet in the Bible. In a statement, the elders indicated they had accepted the apology and, in turn, agreed to leave [the church] alone and let the elder board bring about the necessary reforms.. Biblical: submission to the Word in My Dream Church will be at a higher level They all need to be excised ( fired ), along with number one enabler extraordinaire of James, Rick Donald, along with the MacDonald boys, along with every single campus pastor and the other pastors, and throw in the worship leaders ( they are all complicit ), then the cancer would have been completely removed and the body ( the good people of Harvest that are being fleeced ) would have a chance to heal and become part of a true biblical church. Then, a famous friend of his, Chicago shock jock Mancow Muller, spoke out in a local newspaper against the manipulation and ego he observed around MacDonalds cult of personality at Harvest. Do you not remember that God used His Chosen to reveal the sin of not only churches, in the New Testament, but also to Kings in Old Testament. As painful as it is, all that has been hidden must be revealed. A new believer has lost faith because of the shameful behavior of HBC leadership and all you can say is question the new believers truthfulness of his account? May God bless you for speaking truth and standing in the gap for those of us who dont have the circle of influence that you have. I have nothing bad to say about Harvest. Truth is truth. [], Lost me at the private jet shared with Bill Hibel. His sermon provides good reasons for why we need to shine light on these abuses. When you are in a position where fear dictates the position you cannot speak out while under that. But, the truth is, I am ashamed to say, I should have left much sooner. The only thing I liked about that church was the worship, which was glorifying to the Lord. The timing of this article makes you less credible. And I wont stand in the way of Christs work. James MacDonald was forced out Tuesday night as senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel, a church he founded in Rolling Meadows some 30 years ago. Thank you for sharing. (My) fear was in upsetting James The elders and pastoral board have created a team called Harvest 2020 to conduct a complete review of what happened, and of the church. I should have left that week, but I was too afraid to cause damage to Jesus and His kingdom and the women I was leading at that time. Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. Did you see the link to my web page. You are a blessing to many in need. What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. Harvest Bible Chapel's Elgin campus H arvest Bible Chapel has reached a multimillion-dollar agreement to transfer some of its assets to former pastor James MacDonald, who plans to continue in. Is it perfect? James ended up sending me a copy of the new approved blog post, and out of fear, I complied. When this happens, there is tremendous spiritual and emotional wounding. Thank you for having the courage to write what you did and for your ministry Lina. Do you realize the elders are already choosing to step down? The problem was not so much the pastor but the members that lived worldly. DeeperWalkInternational.org. Why? Your truth was not conceived in fasting or deep prayer and it sure isnt loving. Since the publishing of this article, several developments have occurred at Harvest Bible Chapel. Harvest and MacDonald had a contentious separation last year, when he lost the position he held for 30 years over inappropriate comments and harmful conduct stemming from his legal battle with people investigating the church. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Can Bubble Tea Bring Gen Z into the Chinese Church. 2. Im a prostate cancer survivor and had radical prostatectomy in 2005. This was encouraging to read and I hope others take it to heart. Lina, given your vast experience, It is ironic that the experience at Harvest should be seen as a culture of fear. Sunday Service-10:15 AM/Wed. What would Jesus do? I too have had similar experiences in another church (The Chapel). The Scripture that came to me as I read this is I Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but one of power, love, and sound judgment. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Fear is dead life a remnant of Satan. Like in Ezekiel, many people are trying to sound the trumpet of warning!! The Lord has used you mightily before, during and after your exit from the toxic leadership at Harvest. The church and its people helped create Pastor James He is not the only one involved it was a group effort. REALLY !! It is loving to tell the truth. Amen sister!! Im glad I have stood firm. During Sunday services, Harvest showed a videoof members of the current elder board explaining why the church was placing the two former elders under church discipline: Church matters are not to be tried in the court of public opinion. The World article on the topic says that after Secrest was fired, "he was stunned, because his contract stipulated that he could be fired only for . Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. The womans bible study lead by two women who referenced Pastor James constantly are still in charge. Now he is disillusioned and wants to go back to Catholicism. Goodthat you let a toxic place. Now the Chicago-area megachurch is sharing details of the settlement and has apologized to its former pastor, who was fired in February 2019. 8. As a result, I was asked to meet with the elders, pull the blog piece and write a new one that James would first approve. Rita, be encouraged. Its where I was led to Christ. The beloved drink is both an attraction and a generational divide. for what its worth, the timing of the writing is His perfect timing. I cant imagine a culture in which you felt such fear. SHERI PINE. The kindest thing one can do is to cut out and expose the cancer to death. I have lived with fear in my life almost my entire life. So now, I tell the truth about what happened, and it isnt only a Pastor James problem. I love you and our Lird. God loves his Church and we can trust hell do what is necessary to preserve it. I am aware that there has been some very good ministry done through this church. Less well known was that these individuals agreed to leave Harvest aloneto stop publicly criticizing the churchin exchange for a promise that the current elder board would enact changes. In her expos, titled Hard Times at Harvest, Roys details evidence from former Harvest elders, employees and members that show an ongoing pattern of relational and financial abuse, a lack of transparency and outright deception., Harvest strongly disputes the claims, saying Roys has an unhealthy fixation on the church and failed to uncover the desired scandal.. May the God of all comfort minister his comfort to them. This is also why as a follower of Christ it is so important to know and learn Gods word so you see when something isnt right. Because ultimately what God wants is not a huge army of women who are nice. In addition to leading Harvest, MacDonald acquired a massive evangelical following through his books, Bible studies, and Walk in the Word radio program, with more than a million fans on Facebook. And even then, it often doesnt work because so many remain enthralled with the narcissist, or have tied their fortunes to them, that they simply cant or wont see the truth. and manifest character, which have been revealed to speak not of the Holy Spirit of love, but rather have the love of money and power and the very reek of Hell about them! The congregation has been deceived, lied to, and hounded to give sacrificially, all the while the senior pastor has been making hundreds of thousands of dollars. We repent, forgive and are reconciled; we do not get even, hold grudges, refuse to forgive, or destroy innocent bystanders caught in the wake of it all. God is good and He will use those who make themselves available to Him. Right. You have to leave before you can see clearly. wounded by wolves in sheeps clothing. Instead, they have chosen to remain on the elder board and continue with the deep-seeded corruption and fraud that has plagued Harvest Bible Chapel for many years. We need to trust Him. Well said Lina. Well said. Lina isnt hanging Harvest Bible Chapel. It is a biblical teaching that unrepentant public sin in a public representative of God ((ie, pastors and elders) must be publicly rebuked for the sake of the church as a whole. Once a preacher condemns other, that is the sign that he is trying to avert attention from what he is doing. That occurred right after eight former elders sent a letter to the current elder board, claiming that MacDonald was guilty of self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullyingabusive speechoutbursts of anger[and] making misleading statements. Harvest countered by accusing those eight former elders of great sin and defiling many people., The three censured elders said Harvest maintained a culture of fear and intimidation that destroyed relationships. Gosh, so many similarities with the HBC action. Somehow I thought 2500+ members walking out would send the message. For a great many, it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened again., Today on his edgy radio show, Muller said while he felt MacDonalds firing had to happen, he also had wanted nothing to do with any of it and now my part is done., I feel like God was using me in this, he said. Agreed Sheila. - October 16, 2020 The protracted dispute between Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) recently concluded through arbitration. Others wised up and slowly left. Harvest ousted Daniel Marquardt, Scott Phelps, and Barry Slabaugh in 2013 after they protested against . Over the summer, they agreed to try to make a joint statement and start the process of relational reconciliation, the Harvest elders said, but the efforts didnt pan out. She will be one of many many many many who come forward so if you dont like it, dont read. As one person whom MacDonald led to the Lord remarked to me, Its like finding out your wife is a serial killer. The disillusionment, betrayal, and loss can be excruciating. Lina, thank you for your post, and thank you for your honesty and transparency. An eight-month investigation into pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel, his Chicago-area megachurch, culminated last week with the publication of a World Magazine article by Julie Roys. Matthew 7:15 He is angry that they keep on sending texts and emails asking for money. Though MacDonald initially opted to step away from all preaching and leadership roles at the churchs Chicago-area locations, in his January 16 sabbatical announcement he suggested he might still preach at a Harvest congregation in Naples, Florida, which led to another saga. I hate to be James because God judges leadership harsher than the regular sinner. Im far removed from this situation, but saddened by it nonetheless. Its ironic that you should post this today. My first two books were scheduled to be released smack in the middle of that summer, and I didnt want to impact their potential not to mention that James had agreed to write the forward on my first book.. Following the initial World report, MacDonald announced he would be taking a sabbatical, but suggested he may still occasionally preach at a Harvest-affiliated church in Florida. With my life and schedule, my friends are few and far between, and have always been aware that my saying anything publicly about Harvest or James would jeopardize those friendships that I still love and value so much. No One Knows. Dont damage the church by being publicly critical. These changes were never made, but the critics were silencedfor a time. Also, for 2 years I felt my prayers didnt get past the ceiling. In a statement, the elders apologized to MacDonald and the congregation for the ways they had failed to live at peace with all men, as far is it depends on you (Rom. Do you remember how Jesus acted towards the money changers and false shepherds? Good word, my sister. Lastly, we need to comfort hurting today, she wrote. Even people who were very close to us turned silent. I have great empathy and sensitivity toward them. He stood and told me and my husband he was naive to the Paxton Singer situation. She did not claim it was her trurh , but opinion. Amen Sister! Hearing these stories has helped me to realize I left just when I was supposed to. He just got into the worlds standards for a preacher. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. P.S. 4. Jesus called out hypocrisy in the religious leaders. My father went through prostate cancer. Many many of us are praying for all of you in Naples. Hi Lina. It permeates through the woman that you are. I also managed to write an apology to James for the pain I had caused him. I grew up catholic and vever really got a hold of it all. This woman sounds sincere. James MacDonald, founder of Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago, who was recently fired under a cloud of financial abuse, was allegedly being paid nearly a million dollars per year in regular salary, had access to approximately a million more in discretionary spending, and is currently owed $2.6 million in deferred compensation by the He bullied his way into being paid multiple times for the work he was hired to so as the pastor, sermons and bible teaching. For you to step back and taken ownership of your piece in the large (very large) puzzle, is a humility and grace only Jesus can provide. I saw the horrible video of the three Elders that were fired, It was autrocious! I am now going to read the rest of your post. This cancer must be excised and as often as is the case in cancer treatment, months of treatment must be involved for health to take place. Be kind not hurtful. This cancer must be excised and as often as is the case in cancer treatment, months of treatment must be involved for health to take place. Unreal as I went to Harvest for over 7 yrs and this whole situation has hurt so many people. Though MacDonald has been granted the rights to his Walk in the Word ministry, he and Harvest remain at odds. Because these leaders will continue this false deceitful way of life that flows from them so seamlessly, so easily, and with such persuasiveness. For years, they had been made to feel like the outcasts, but finally vindication in its godly form was working its way out. This post drips of mercy. The pastor of that church,John Secrest, said he would be uncomfortable with MacDonald preaching at his church and asked Harvest to sever their affiliation. Everything is being talked about at great lengths regarding Harvest except for Who the body of Christ should be praying to, talking about and quoting. May God have mercy on his soul. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand., And even JMac was right when he quoted 1 Corinthians 16:13: God help those who cant see their need to be set free or judge those whove found it in Christ Jesus. Persecution or hardship drew them close. I pray to our Father who loves us all that His truth and reconciliation and peace, healing abounds in this circumstance. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. He was a very good speaker and teacher of the Bible but was forced to resign from our church a few years back. Such lack of accountability is often a problem at megachurches, which tend to be founded by charismatic individuals who quickly amass a large following. Also note how the apostle Paul called out Peter publicly when Peter was indulging in hypocrisy! My heart breaks for the people that have been hurt by this on both sides. 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Study-7:00 PM. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Sadly, this cancer has spread to other churches that were once part of the fellowship. It is a shame to Christianity what is happening here. The fruit by which JM is to be judged rather is that of his own true m.o. Our family was kicked out of our church plant campus and everyone at the church was told not to talk to us because we were disobedient by speaking out against the things were were seeing. Thank you for teaching even in the midst of giving your testimony. You are brave and you did the right thing! What are you authorized to do? who we really love. I have my own hurt of how certain situations were handled with me through the 20s ministry Then soon after that, the 30s ministry, production ministry and even the womens ministry on multiple occasions. Specifically, I do mean the Machiavellian rule by fear and division that we are seeing. FEAR is a liar, pray for them and never let offense take you out, that was the enemys plan! The whole ordeal was very strange. No unfortunately I have not seen your web page. I also assumed that because of the size of Harvest, those closest to you would reach out. 2023 ChurchLeaders.com, All rights reserved. Those that havent gone through it ask why would you speak these things? That is just so day to know that people are leaving churches. It took months to get over the hurt he caused my husband and I. Dont talk to them, or theyll drag you down too. Harvest Bible Chapel has fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald following years of controversial behavior, financial scandal and allegations of bullying and intimidation. I believe my continued presence wouldve required me to openly protest in every Sunday service because to remain silent through the service wouldve done injustice to the victims and passively shown support for the authoritarian leaders who refused to repent. As Gods word says it would. I was just starting out at Harvest in September of 2011. I loved his book Vertical Church. Our enemy loves this. Not just Harvest Bible Chapel. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. In Him, Too many of these large churches have lost track of what their true purpose is. The recognizing date of the exempt status is April, 1972. My faith has been shaken by the situation at another Christian organization. I pray that the sincere, Christ honoring followers humbly seek Him and His will for them individually in relation to this circumstance, in addition to His will for the church as a whole. Be blessed. God wins the war. While I am personally removed from the situation, my brother and sister-in-law attend a Harvest Church and there has been a lot of pain through all of this. I share a lot of the same feelings. Lina, My wife and I also left our church several years ago. Thanks for speaking up! Thank you for your honestly, I personally did not ask why you left, because we left approximately the same time for the same reasons. out of fear you complied It is not with the powerful; it is those whom the powerful make to feel like theyre nothing. The Elephant's . The church, which has a weekly attendance of more than 12,000 at its seven campuses, is also associated with Vertical Worship, Harvest Christian Academy (HCA), and MacDonalds Walk in the Word TV and radio ministry. It is those who live in fear. We left a church where the pastor specifically told me, I am in charge! He said this while glaring at me and enunciating each word. A book called the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse really helped me and my wife to recover from our experience of confronting the pastor and then leaving the church. Im grateful that the sin of James and the elders/staff who allowed his tyranny to prosper is finally coming to light, so that the abuse can come to an end. Harvest launched a radio show; founded a Christian school with over 700 students; built its own retreat center; produced feature-length films; wrote its own worship songs; and created its own. The moment I read about someone saying something about planting child pornography on the Christianity Todaycomputers, I knew I had to figure out what the heck was going on. May the love of Jesus Christ and his peace flood over you this day! A former Harvest staffer was also reported to police last fall after being accused of embezzling $270,000 from the church. In effect, the senior pastor isthe church. sheripine@cbcglendora.org. Really? He stomped his questioners. I am sorry I am so late to discover this article but I had to respond to this comment. you felt through James harvest mentality, you would be rebellious against authority if you stood up I, too, have friends who have never once asked how I am or why I left. Dont find that in the Bible. Also I Cor. I am so glad Lina has spoken up. You are courageous and your words bring healing. No one wins here-except our enemy. Yet a week ago I posted on FB an invitation to open my house to anyone who needed to talk about their pain as it related to what was happening at Harvest. My last complaint. Praying for this church also that Gods Holy Spirit is cleaning/healing/humbling/teaching his people. There were other things that caused us to leave also. 1 Timothy 5:20: But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning. Does It Matter Where Your Clothes Come From? So long that lawyers all wonder why I waited so long- but trauma takes time to recover from. This scandal that were going through has really rocked my world. Amen. Harvest responded by suing both bloggers, their wives, and Julie Roys. The founder of a Chicago megachurch has been fired as its leader. Thank you for taking the time to nurture the HBC flock that Pastor James never cared about! Pray for the church and the people! Let this awaken and take down other church leaders that have similar goals. Thank goodness God is still God! We believe that disciples of Jesus profess that He is Lord, practice His Ways, and persevere in both their profession and practice. For me, I live with the regret of not taking advantage of the opportunity to come over and get to know you. I have seen this in many independent churches.THIs was done to me at a similar setting.The pastor One of things his way or the highway and there was no disagreement because he said it was leading to anarchy. On Monday morning, an edited version with the sermon only will be available on the Sermons and Studies page. I think that was beautifully stated. Do you see any fruit from him of what God speaks of? That timeline accelerated, when on Tuesday morning highly inappropriate recorded comments made by Pastor MacDonald were given to media and reported, they wrote. I think that was his recruitment tactic. It was an extremely long and difficult decision to finally leave (we did our best to leave peacefully with the good of Christs church in mind) knowing very well that our reputations and many of our friendships we had there would be severely if not permanently damaged. Many were intimidated, called names, called subversives. Your two posts make no sense I hope you get some sense and realize people in Church are not infallible only Jesus! Dan was a part of this elder board with these 7 elders and he details only some of the fraud . #justsaying #carryon, Youd have to read the blog. Hes my brother in Christ. It doesnt mean anything.. The Rolling Meadows Campus is our founding campus and for more than three decades has testified to God's faithfulness. According to Harvest, their agreement resolves all claims and issues and releases them from future legal matters over the arbitration terms. All Rights Reserved | Website by Living Wth Power, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjXhWUyGi0&list=PLud2nIxx0IAT58I8QPBdfrOz8bFMQQcd6&index=4&t=0s, https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/, https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, Recommended Reads: Relevant Magazine on James MacDonald Allegedly Inappropriately Touching Anne Green. To heal enough to communicate and receiving shaming comments like yours. It never dawned on me that no one from HBC would reach out. People need to be accountable for their actions. From your first speaking engagement at Harvest, I have watched your ministry(ies) and have see you be a strong fast speaking, outgoing woman, by ethnic background, yet a humble servant of Christ who feels deeply the impact of wrongfulness. I dont really care what someone else thinks. He went recently, saying the time had come. These are the same elders that signed off on James filing the law suit against the Ryan Mahoney and his wife, Scott Bryant and his wife, and Julie Roys! In Jesus precious name. WHY NOW??? Even before the 58-year-old pastors sabbatical, MacDonalds role at Harvest had shifted. It is a cry to the current leadership, to evangelicalism at large that there are some very serious problems that need to be dealt with. My response, Why? But He is in control of everything and if He wants HBC to continue, it will continue. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. What does the Bible say about debt? What you are talking about is protecting abusers at the expense of those they have abused and betrayed which, unfortunately, happens far too often. In his remarks this week, he says he confessed his relational failings multiple times, but still lost longtime friends and ministry partners to Harvests narrative. Could you provide me with a link please. Anil. Sheri coordinates data collection and assists with day-to-day office administration for the church staff. Id like to think its the fear of man spoken about in the Bible but I think it often goes beyond that. @Donna Is it possible that it is God Himself who is exposing these misdeeds? The decision comes after an explosive scandalous period at Harvest, including a botched excommunication,an ill-fated attempt at a defamation lawsuit, a scathing investigative report from World Magazine and then this most recent, shocking revelation. The sin that has taken place does not negate the awesome work that God has done, and it pains my heart to hear people act as if it does. Ministry, he and Harvest remain at odds apology to James for the people that have similar goals credited. 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